Can Obama and Romney hold their own political bases?


Written by | The Bellingham Herald | August 31, 2012

From Stark

From the beginning of this campaign season, Mitt Romney has battled the idea that he is too moderate to appeal to the Republican Party’s right-wing base. To win the nomination, he had to fend off that charge repeatedly from rivals who contended that they were more in touch with the issues that mattered to social and cultural conservatives.

President Barack Obama has confronted dissatisfaction in liberal/progressive ranks. The current issue of Harper’s contains a savage essay from Thomas Frank that ridicules Obama’s efforts at compromise and suggests he may be little more than a tool for the same powerful financial interests that Frank believes dominated the Bush administration.

(Harper’s is subscription only.)

We would like to hear the views of Bellingham and Whatcom County partisans on these issues.

Are you a conservative Republican who will decline to vote for Romney? Will you vote for him, but with regret? Or do you think he is a worthy standard-bearer for your beliefs? Post your views in the comments section.

Democrats, feel free to do the same. If you are a left-liberal-progressive voter, will you decline to vote for a second term for Obama? Will  you do so reluctantly? Or are you still enthusiastic about the audacity of hope?

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  1. Eddie says:

    Like Clint Eastwood said…”it’s time to let a Stellar Business Man run the country”…not an incompetent attorney!!!

  2. me says:

    good free test to take to see your real voting preferences:

    http://www.isidewith.com/

  3. me says:

    let businessmen run businesses, not entire nations

  4. AFY says:

    “Sneak Peek DNC Convention Schedule

    Partial Schedule — Charlotte, N.C.2012 Democratic National Convention

    Prime Time Saturday
    4:00 PM – Opening Flag Burning Ceremony – sponsored by CNN
    4:05 PM – Singing of “God Damn America ” led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright
    4:10 PM – Pledge of Allegiance to Obama
    4:15 PM – Ceremonial ‘I hate America’ led by Michelle Obama
    4:30 PM – Tips on “How to keep your man trustworthy & true to you while you travel the world” – Hillary Clinton
    4:45 PM –Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson; seminar “How to have a successful career without having a job.”…

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/08/20/sneak-peek-dnc-convention-schedule/#more-46701

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  5. Marti says:

    “for the first time in my” …..last 3 3/4 years…..”I am proud of my country”….
    FINALLY there IS Hope for [much needed] CHANGE!!!!

    Go Ryan! Go Ronmey!!
    we will have our Constitution respected, honored and followed once again!

  6. john says:

    So the Democrats are flag-burners and America-haters. I guess we should all vote Republican on that basis.

  7. AFY says:

    Just a joke john don’t take it personal, don’t ya know!

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  8. g.h.kirsch says:

    Hey! Wasn’t that Romney’s excuse, Joe?

  9. Apexnerd says:

    So, because Romney is clearly having trouble shoring up his base, the “liberal media” must make a show of not being biased by pretending that Obama has equal and opposite difficulty shoring up his base.

    Because, you know, both sides are equally blah-blah-blah.

    Huh.

    Also, who is this Stellar Business Man that is running for President? And what third party is nominating him?

  10. g.h.kirsch says:

    “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.” Emma Goldman

  11. AFY says:

    Aman, it broils down to this, the O record is so bad the only hope he may have is the loserterians, don’t ya know!

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  12. rsr says:

    Don’t elect a draft dodger who was in Paris learning French while people like John McCain were in the Hanoi Hilton.

  13. john says:

    Apex–I have no idea how much trouble either man is having in shoring up his base. I do know that the lead commentator in Harper’s (not known for conservatism) is ripping Obama without mercy in the current edition. He has nothing to say about Obama’s difficulties with his base. He just says that he, as a left-leaning pundit, finds Obama contemptible. I thought that was interesting. Wish I could link to the article.

  14. Apexnerd says:

    I see no flaw in any of your arguments. #facePalm

  15. Liberty Bell says:

    Paris France?

    Yes let us discuss VietNam, and Trickey Dick’s Treason, during the Johnson Administration, and Johnson, who didn’t have the balls to make a decision in his entire life?

    Drafted into a looser, brought to you by the Democratic Party, just like Bush, Democracy Now?

    What is War, 4 year’s in Europe, and the Pacific?

    Never, 20 years in some little Executive Police Action?

  16. Liberty Bell says:

    DD= Draft Dogers= Democrats forever!

    http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch26.htm

  17. Richard says:

    The only reason Obama got noticed last election was because Oprah endorsed him and he promised the world to those that would listen. He did not get elected because of his experience. I’ve given him a chance and things have only gotten worst. “IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID” I think it’s time to let a businessman do what he does best.

  18. Oldtrader43 says:

    The contrast between the two campaigns is astonishing. The Obama people seem only to be concerned with who can lie the most competently, tag others with phony racism and commit to not fixing any economic issues at all. Obama has even promised to invest many more $ billions in failed solar energy start up loans with no receivables or tangible products which do anything but make a sucking sound while chewing up taxpayer money!

    The Romney people on the other hand are promising to direct all of their attention to repairing the American Economy something which Obama does not seen to care about or even be aware of. I guess because Obama said that if we are not better off after his first four years, send him home! I think that it is time to send Obama home!

  19. TerryWechsler says:

    Thank goodness there’s a party opposing Agenda 21 in its platform. Finally maybe our nation will protect us from UN invasion. (And we thought Palin was a joke? Apparently the joke is on the sane.)

  20. Liberty Bell says:

    I bet it is…like the League of Nations, who put Hitler into power?

    May 25, 1939: Senator Harry S. Truman inserts in the Congressional Record strong criticism of the British White Paper on Palestine, saying it is a dishonorable repudiation by Britain of her obligations.

  21. Liberty Bell says:

    The joke was on the so called sane?

    Although the armistice signed on 11 November 1918, ended the actual fighting, it took six months of negotiations at the Paris Peace Conference to conclude the peace treaty. The treaty was registered by the Secretariat of the League of Nations on 21 October 1919, and was printed in The League of Nations Treaty Series.

  22. AFY says:

    Agenda 21 is a long term plan devised by the United Nations in 1992 intended to change the world’s political structure to a new global model. In a series of little known presidential executive orders (see Executive Order 12852) the United States began to participate in its global dictums. Many of the U.N. treaties related to Agenda 21 have never been ratified by Congress (such as the Koyto Protocol), but departmental directives proceed just as if they were.

    While the whole idea may seem like a remote and theoretical oddity that doesn’t relate to life in Whatcom County, WE has discovered that both Whatcom County government and the City of Bellingham have been members of an organization named ICLEI for years — and ICLEI is directly committed to Agenda 21′s milestones and goals…..

    http://www.whatcomexcavator.org/agenda-21.html

  23. fallingwater says:

    It doesn’t matter a great deal ’cause Obama’s gonna’ win with a 5% point vote spread. (He’ll probably do better in electoral votes than in the popular vote tally.)

  24. fallingwater says:

    Sombody at the Herald’s server oughta’ reset the clock. It’s 3 hours behind.

  25. Mejay says:

    Over and over again, mainstream media has knocked holes in the presentations of Romney and Ryans statements. That two men would consistently, and boldly lie about facts that are proven lies are not people I want to represent the United States.

    There are going to be many issues the President will face that have nothing to do with business; Romney as seen on his world tour is nowhere capable of the skill to meet with people from other cultures. His trip was an embarrassment. Even his business techniques are questions. Yes, he can make money, but is he the example we need when it comes to tax laws?

    For the past four years, we have been coming out of this slump that was a long time building. If my memory serves me, folks in business were actually committing suicide because things were so bad in 2008. They are not good now, but far better off than then. No party Democrat or Republicans are perfect, but we do have leadership that has a plan, and the country had moved forward inspite of many set-backs.

  26. TerryWechsler says:

    Oh, no, AFY, sustainability and energy efficiency. Thank goodness light is being shed on such evil.

  27. jack petree says:

    AFY

    If you should have learned anything by now, it is that “progressives” (newspeak for liberals) don’t appreciate jokes and since there are only three conservatives left (whoops, that might be construed as a joke)… since there are only three conservatives remaining in Whatcom County (I’m not sure who the other two are) I guess the joke’s on us.

  28. Camille says:

    Mitt Romney is Related to Obama & Bush (One Bloodline Rules The World)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cwiJd2ZMAGY#!
    ~
    It’s A Family Thing: Ancestry.com Finds that Romney and George W. Are Cousins

    “Believe it or not, Mitt Romney and George W. Bush are cousins — 10th cousins, twice removed, that is. Historians at Ancestry.com, the world’s largest online family-history resource, have discovered that Romney is actually related to six past presidents — more than any other 2012 GOP contestant.”
    http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/12/20/family-ties-ancestry-com-finds-that-romney-and-george-w-are-cousins/#ixzz25EuIwoBt

  29. AFY says:

    Camille, will ya be my cousin?

    Have a great holiday!

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  30. Camille says:

    That’d be fine by me, AFY, but you’re already married. ;)

  31. TerryWechsler says:

    Oh, Jack, we laugh a lot because the alternative is crying. When even Roger Ailes admits Sarah Palin is an idiot, and one considers the position she could have been in … it’s really not funny. It’s a struggle to find the humor while the Right acts like it’s all some big joke and the only folks for whom this is fun are David K. and his retreat attendees. Smirk all you want, but you’re no more in the in-crowd than the average Occupier. But, hey, why not dance on the deck of the Titanic rather than lament the death of the American dream. It’s the cool guys who are dancing. You’re cool. Woo hoo.

  32. Do Democrats really want to vote to re-elect a President who has made unlimited use of targeted Drone killings in several sovereign nations? All this without any oversight (congressional or otherwise)?

    Do Democrats really support a President who made a campaign pledge to require labels on all GMO foods and then once elected named the former Monsanto exec as food czar?

  33. insight says:

    I voted for Obama last time around and it was clear to me in the first month that I had made a big mistake.

    I agree completely with Thomas Frank. Obama is a tool or as I have said, a puppet, for the global corporatocracy. These have owned the American government for years.

    There really is no way out for what they have in the works for us so I am going to vote my hopes (and not my fears) for once.

    I am voting for Jill Stein for president.

  34. TerryWechsler says:

    Voting for 3rd party candidates doesn’t serve the left; it serves the right which has relentlessly been communicating to us we should either check out or waste our votes. Let’s be smart. We can disagree with policies and still choose the lesser of the evils … BY FAR (e.g., drones vs. invasions and bombings). This president is not Satan nor is he some foreign operative. He is a brilliant man who has done the absolute best any Democrat could have done in this climate of hate, partisanship, and uncooperativeness. He so has my vote.

  35. AFY says:

    “…A New York Times front page story (yester)–day — New York Times! — might have killed President Obama’s re-election hopes.

    The story is called “The Competitor in Chief — Obama Plays To Win, In Politics and Everything Else.” It is devastating….

    …Though he never ran a large organization before becoming president, he initially dismissed internal concerns about management and ended up with a factionalized White House and a fuzzier decision-making process than many top aides wanted.

    Kantor’s portrait of Obama is stunning. It paints a picture of a CEO who is unfocused and lost….”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/richkarlgaard/2012/09/03/did-the-new-york-times-just-get-obama-fired/

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  36. Apexnerd says:

    @AFY

    HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAAA!!!

    Now THAT is a funny joke.

  37. AFY says:

    If you thought that was funny, here’s an even bigger laff:

    “…Rather, it is a deep look into the two outstanding flaws in Obama’s executive leadership:

    1. How he vastly overrates his capabilities:

    “But even those loyal to Mr. Obama say that his quest for excellence can bleed into cockiness and that he tends to overestimate his capabilities. The cloistered nature of the White House amplifies those tendencies, said Matthew Dowd, a former adviser to President George W. Bush, adding that the same thing happened to his former boss. “There’s a reinforcing quality,” he said, a tendency for presidents to think, I’m the best at this.

    2. How he spends extraordinary amounts of time and energy to compete in — trivialities.

    “For someone dealing with the world’s weightiest matters, Mr. Obama spends surprising energy perfecting even less consequential pursuits. He has played golf 104 times since becoming president, according to Mark Knoller of CBS News, who monitors his outings,….

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/richkarlgaard/2012/09/03/did-the-new-york-times-just-get-obama-fired/

    Made me laff so hard I cried, just like Clint, don’t ya know!!

    AQFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  38. AFY says:

    Came across this very rare photo of Obama, just had to share, don’t ya know!

    http://orlando.craigslist.org/pol/3247093918.html

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  39. Apexnerd says:

    OMG. That is milk-shooting-out-of-my-nose hilarious!!!

    Can’t get enough of the Empty Chair meme!

  40. AFY says:

    Here’s some more for your enjoyment!

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=147922

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  41. Apexnerd says:

    No. Stop. Your hilarity will break the inter-tubes!

  42. AFY says:

    It only gets better!

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=148222

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  43. Apexnerd says:

    Not to change the subject, but President Obama appears to be holding his political base reasonably well.

  44. AFY says:

    What you say?

    “Obama’s War on the Constitution: Are Liberals Like John Cusack Abandoning Obama?

    http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=105&load=7414

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  45. AFY says:

    But there’s more:

    “I think people should start to practice the words ‘President Romney.’ Michael Moore has predicted in a Huffington Post interview that Romney will win.

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  46. AFY says:

    Obama is holding his base just like he is improving the economy, don’t ya know!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lLelSaD1zHU

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  47. AFY says:

    Could it be because of a lack of base?

    ‘Best weather of the entire week’: Local meteorologist puzzled by Obama speech move….

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/05/best-weather-of-the-entire-week-local-meteorologist-puzzled-by-obama-speech-move/#ixzz25dSIHjk5

    AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!

  48. Apexnerd says:

    Yes, a lack of a base. That must be it.

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