BREAKING! Kershner now leads McShane for County Council seat
A big shift in later ballot counting has put small business owner Kathy Kershner over former County Councilman Dan McShane for the council’s District 1 seat.
Kershner now leads 50.2 percent to 49.8 percent. She leads McShane by 223 votes. It was a switch of 733 votes in her favor during the Friday, Nov. 6 count, an indication that Whatcom County Auditor’s Office has started getting to the more conservative ballots that often come from the Lynden area.
Elections Supervisor Pete Griffin has said that Lynden voters are known for bringing ballots to the Election Day drop box in the city, rather than mailing ballots, and that chunk of votes doesn’t get counted as quickly as ballots that arrive and are processed prior to Election Day.
Meanwhile, the race between District 3 Councilman Carl Weimer and Lummi Island small business owner Michelle Luke has also tightened. Weimer is still in the lead with 50.9 percent to 49.1 percent. He lost nearly a full percentage point in his lead, and the race is now separated by 979 votes.
District 2 candidate Ken Mann and At-Large candidate Bill Knutzen still maintain healthy leads over their opponents, respectively Mary Beth Teigrob and Councilwoman Laurie Caskey-Schreiber. The councilwoman has already conceded to Knutzen. Teigrob has not returned several phone calls seeking comment.
The Auditor’s Office has now counted 57,275 ballots out of 61,539 ballots received, and because of some votes being invalidated for various reasons, not all of those will be counted.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
WHAT?! OMG! NO WAY!
November 6th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
The sky has fallen!
November 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Dan Pike might have called it.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Todd2,
And now Michelle Luke (gasp) has an outside shot.
The world has turned upside down!
November 6th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
If my math is correct, I believe Michelle Luke would need about 72.9 percent of the potentially-remaining ballots to overtake Weimer’s lead.
I’m not going to call this race, but I think her chances are slim.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
YES! Hopefully McShane will stop running for offices in whatcom county now.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Wow! Go Kathy!
November 6th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I was making a joke. I can do the math.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Dave, while I didn’t really take what you said as a joke (sometimes words don’t translate well, ya know?) I really was more just offering up an interesting fact for everyone. Not slight to you, sir.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
BAD NEWS! You mean we might have to listen to that snarky, snarling woman as a Councilperson????!!!!
Her handlers at BIAWC must be high-fiving at warp speed, but the fat lady has NOT sung yet!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I want to rephrase my comment.
I made that comment for Todd’s benefit, because I think that it never occurred to him that McShane could lose, although Dan Pike certainly thought he could, and because it never occurred to Todd that a majority of voters in Whatcom County might disagree with his view of the world.
You’re still unwilling to call the Weimer-Luke race, because the late returns are breaking heavily for the conservative candidates. Just the same, 72.9 is steep.
Carl Weimer was the strongest candidate in the whole election, from a personal ambition, experience, and progressive point-of-view, but the fact remains: Michelle Luke has a distant outside shot. She had an enormous hill to climb, and it’s possible that only her inexperience saved him from defeat, if the election goes that way.
I’d like to see new people on the Council, if only because they’d require a re-examination of the course that the council has taken.
I see the Planning comission as a different problem. Lesow, in particular, has a bad attitude.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Frick, I’m running out and buying a new water filtering system for my house. While I’m at it just might as well buy stock in asphalt and gravel pits.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Davesix “has a little list” of people with “bad attitudes” to be eliminated? Scary.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:29 am
That &%#*! SPAMMER is in this thread, also! What a slimeball!
November 7th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Hey, Sam, do something about the spammer, would ya?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am
…and by do something, I mean delete the spammer’s post.
You clearly have the ability and discretion to do that.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I’m not sure what you mean by bad attitude, Dave.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am
So Bill, who’s the spammer?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
The understanding some non-voters had was that there wasn’t a snowball’s chance for these BIAWC candidates to prevail.
So they sat on their votes for some reason.
The likelihood of candidate Kershner and candidate Knutsen pairing up and actually steering policy is still farfetched,
Thankfully.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
After the dust settles, I would like to read Sam’s analysis of how the election results might effect council decisions henceforth.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Apexnerd,
Did you read Lesow’s snarky comment about the letter to the editor (it appears to have scrolled off now.) concerning the FDIC, Horizon bank, and Chuckanut Ridge? It contained quite a bit of gratuitous anti-developer rhetoric, indicative, to me, of a “bad attitude”, considering that he’s a member of the Whatcom County Planning Commission.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
My read on this, is that Kershner and Knutzen are more independent types. Teigrob was more the straight Republican party affiliate of the lot, and she didn’t make it.
I am guessing that Kershner and Knutzen will be similar to Barbara Brenner, which is to take each item one thing at a time, sometimes getting passionate about it, sometimes asking Sam Crawford or a staffer for cues, occasionally surprising us by voting with Weimer and Mann on something, and sometimes just sneaking glances at the clock while choosing to let some issues float by without making a big deal about them.
Just my hunch.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
King John,
“Davesix “has a little list” of people with “bad attitudes” to be eliminated? Scary.”
“…to be eliminated?”
Are you off your meds?
November 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Here’s Lesow’s comment, to the news story, rather than a letter, on Nov 3.
johnlesow wrote on 11/03/2009 11:18:33 AM:
“Could we please retire the term “multi-family” from the Planning lexicon? And substitute the more accurate term, “multi-unit” ?
These 739 units are not designed for Mom, Dad and the two kids. These multi-unit condos are marketed primarily to seniors and second homeowners. They are not for “families”. “Multi-family” is developerspeak for getting the most bang for the investor buck by cramming as many units as possible on the smallest acreage. “Affordable Housing” is another bastardized term used to get developments approved. Throw in a few “affordable” housing units, garnish with “mass transit service” and you may get your latest project approved. These “concessions” are the tie your local haberdasher throws in to sell the suit. “Multifamily” units are there to appeal to a specific market, in this case, the Second Homeless. This project is not about “infill”. It is about destroying a natural treasure and making money for the investors at the expense of local taxpayers.”
November 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Neither Kershner or Knutzen have the knowledge or experience to be effective government leaders.
(We are discussing the abilities of two adults who read prepared statements from notes at forums)!
Who cares if they glance idly at the clock? Or, take cues from Sam Crawford? Or, behave like Barbara Brenner?
Hopefully, they possess enough intelligence to listen carefully to county staff and the county’s attorneys or we (the local taxpayers) will be embroiled in one lawsuit after another in a hopeless attempt to defend the undefendable. (A war against state statutes and growth policy).
And, that will be the end of their short, but colorful political careers!
November 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
citizen,
i agree that many people, including myself, believed that the election of the candidates mentioned in your earlier comment was indeed farfetched.
i can vividly recall feeling the same way about ronald reagan during the 1980 presidential campaign, and the ludicrousness of that election is what motivated me to participate in this one.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I clearly do. But I also, clearly, don’t work on weekends and don’t spend every waking minute of the day on this blog, though I do try to come on here has often as I can and when I feel like it on the weekends to ensure all are playing nicely in the sand box.
The spammer posts have been taken care of. It wasn’t a local, it was a bot.
November 7th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Davesix,
Is that a grade-school taunt — “are you off your meds?” Why no, I don’t take any. Do you? Is that what you want to discuss here?
I’d rather hear why you think that a planning commissioner has to be pro-development in general and in favor of a particular development project in particular.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
King John,
Sheesh!
You conjured up an agenda on my part that I don’t think is supported by anything I wrote.
The question came to mind.
Chill!
I’m here to have a pleasant exchange.
I think that a planning commissioner should be unbiased, and should be focused on administering the planning ordinance. When a commissioner exhibits a bias against certain members of the community, I think that his fairness is called into question.
He could have made his point without using language that, in my opinion, was unnecessary. My response to him at the time was measured, as is mine to you now. I note that he didn’t reply to my perfectly reasonable question about City of Bellingham policies that affect growth and sprawl in the county, subjects that are within his scope of responsibility.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Elisabeth,
You wrote, “Neither Kershner or Knutzen have the knowledge or experience to be effective government leaders.”
What do you take from the fact that the voters appear to think the the current crop of government leaders should be at least partially replaced?
Knutzen and Kershner are clearly inexperienced, but you appear to think that they are also intellectually deprived. Am I wrong? Do you think that they will be slavish Crawford acolytes?
Would that be undesirable for the future of the county?
I do note that you expressed hope…
What do you think about the voters?
November 7th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Elisabeth,
You wrote, “Or, behave like Barbara Brenner?”
Some here won’t understand your comment. would you expand on it?
November 7th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Camille,
YOu wrote, “i can vividly recall feeling the same way about ronald reagan during the 1980 presidential campaign, and the ludicrousness of that election is what motivated me to participate in this one.”
You don’t usually participate? You comment here all the time, so I naturally assumed that you’d be an activitst.
“…ludicrousness…”
And in retrospect?
The lower case is OK, in my opinion. It’s far better than caps.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Sam,
In the future, I’ll use an emoticon to identify a lame attempt at humor on my part.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
My parents moved us out of the Bay Area the day Reagan became Governor.
And had I known how odd it was back then that an actor should play the role of a politician,
I wouldn’t have been so shocked when he was elected POTUS.
But I also thought that Bush wouldn’t ever gain office either - and that was far worse.
It’s as if everything you ever learned was wrong.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Citizen, we have much in common.
I lived in CA, working in TV industry, where most people scratched their heads when Reagan became Gov and said, “Gee, if only he was a good actor and got better parts, this wouldn’t have happened!”
Then I was in TX when The Shrub made it to the statehouse, with Rove fine tuning his “Divide and conquer!!!!” tactics in preparation for the White House.
Two nightmares I’d just as soon forget….
November 8th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I so respect Barbara Brenner..she was the only person on the council who actually came out and met the folks who participated in the Whatcom County Minutemen. She took the time to meet us and didn’t have the “typical” knee jerk, stereotypical reaction, (”let’s write a “resolution” against the Minutemen”), that greets most NON liberal ideas in this area!! I appreciated her willingness to look at the “other” side on ALL issues. I think that she was patronized, badly, by some of the other members of the council. She was blown off so often, even though she would try to make valid points…thankfully the person I saw do this the most frequently, Laurie Caskey-Shreiber, is gone!
I think having Kathy Kershner will be a wonderful addition to the council!! I think Bill Knutzen will be too………my gosh, you have to have some balance!! There are many different opinions in this county that NEVER get heard!!
November 8th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Davesix,
As of the previous administration, I’m a newby to politics, but I’ve always voted.
Qualifying as an activist is not a requirement for posting comments on Sam’s blog, however, the variety and extremities of the opinons found here make it an interesting one.
Is there significance for posting comments in lower case that I should be aware of?
The internet is very forgiving in terms of grammar, and for me, writing with or without caps is merely a walk on the wild side, and that is indeed a very sad commentary on my life.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Camille,
Your reply wasn’t really responsive to my question, was it?
November 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Citizen,
What a pity! The bay area is still lovely, and they missed out on some very nice opportunities there for gains in the value of real estate.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Citizen,
Reagan was the problem?
I thought that all you lefties hated Howard Jarvis for ruining the state. Reagan arrived far later. Jarvis is, of course, responsible for the present budget woes down there in lotus land.
November 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am
I never said Reagan was the cause of our relocation.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Thank you, Sam.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Davesix,
I read your quote of Mr Lesow’s letter, and failed to find any really bad attitude in it. He clearly and articulately expressed an opinion, and reasonable folks can agree to disagree on such things.
I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Lesow in person on a few occasions and I must say that he is the most agreeable person I’ve disagreed with politically.
Furthermore, Mr. Lesow is an example of just how great the people in Whatcom County really are, and we need more people like him in the world, let alone on some planning commission.
Your disapproval of Mr Lesow says a lot more about you than it does about him.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Dude, all of your attempts at humor are lame.
November 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Apexnard,
Re: Your comment about John Lesow:
“DITTO”!!
November 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Thanks, Harry…. I mean Larry. Yeah, Larry. Thanks, Larry.
That’s right, there is no truth whatsoever to the rumor that Larry Horowitz is actually Harry Lorowitz.
(Almost blew your cover there, Harry. Whew. Consider that bullet dodged.)
November 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Apexnard,
You think that my attempts at humor are lame?
November 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
You think that my attempts…?
I’m so crushed.
November 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Davesix,
Don’t you think “behaveing like Barbara Brenner” is probably one of those topics that might create some controversy?
After all, which behavior are you referring to?
By the way, you’re wrong. Health care reform is not unconstitutional.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Davesix,
what do I think about voters? I think they typically make good choices, unless they are bombarded with propaganda or lies in a well-funded but slick misinformation campaign.
Do I have any hope for Kershner or Knutzen? Not really.
Bill Knutzen is very polarized. In fact, he avoids talking to people that he believes he will disagree with in principle. I ought to know, he turned his back on me three times when I attempted to meet him at a county planning commission meeting.
If elected, Kershner and Knutzen will represent all of the people who live in Whatcom County, not just the Tea Party folks or the CAPR folks or the Republican party. (Kershner is an elected precinct committee officer for the Republicans - something she chose to leave out of the voter’s phamphlet). Bill Knutzen is the only county council member who received the endorsement of the
Republican party, but he hid it. Why did two adults hide their political affiliation with the Republicans from the voting public?
Transparency in a campaign is important. It provides voters insight as to what they can expect in the future from elected officials. Secrets have no place in government.
I don’t like dishonest candidates, nor do I like dishonest elected officials. They make bad leaders!
Otherwise, I could careless what party they come from.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Buck up there, soldier. Not everyone can bring the funny.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
But the bigger question is, does anyone have hope for you Madam E!
AFY!!thesheepdog!!!
November 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Bill Knutzen was the only County Council candidate to be endorsed by the Whatcom County Republican Party (WCRP).
Kathy Kershner is a Republican PCO in the WCRP.
So the two conservative candidates with ties to the WCRP are the ones who won. And Bill who was formally endorsed by the WCRP won handily. Is it possible that their association with the WCRP helped their election rather than hindered it?
November 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
For full disclosure Elisabeth shouldn’t you disclose how you fought for your right to be a Republican PCO at the last WCRP re-organization meeting? You also sought election to (and won) a position on the WCRP Executive board and then shirked your responsibilites and never showed up to any E-board meetings.
Just wanted to provide full disclosure.
November 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The people defeated by R’s in this past election were the weakest links, so big surprise.
November 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Full disclosure:
I fought for the right for those elected to PCO positions to take their seats in both parties. I believe that the people decide who represents them, not parties. I did not ask Luanne to appoint me to the seat after it was decided that none of the newly elected PCOs would be seated.
Unfortunately, no one in the party told me I had been elected to the Executive Board. (I’d already left the meeting when that happened).
But it’s a mute point - seeing how I live in the Second District, not the First, (which was the seat I was elected to represent).
And, Bellinghammer, I’m not hiding my past political involvement from anyone.
Just in case you forgot, I was Vice Chair of the Party and acting Chair for a few months, when the elected Chair needed time to recover from surgery.
I worked for the Republican Caucus as a Legislative Aide for the better part of ten years. During that time I worked for a couple of outstanding Republican legislators who demonstrated time and again what it means to be a real leader. I deeply respect people who have strong principles. Even if I don’t always agree with them about all of the issues.
I also worked for the Washington State Republican Party during the 2000 election cycle. I assisted Republican legislative candidates (House and Senate) prepare issue statements, among other duties. (Not all republicans are afraid to be who and what they are).
Oh, and my dad was a Republican. So was my mother. She worked on three Presidential campaigns at the National level.
A bit of Republican trivia? Richard Nixon saved my younger brother’s life by pulling him out of the path of a speeding car. Nixon was being interviewed by several television stations at the time. He watched my brother (aged 4) run out into the street. Nixon stepped into the street, picked up my brohter, and sent him on his way back to my mother without missing a beat in his presentation.
My mom also worked on President Reagan’s campaign.
Oh, one other bit of trivia. I used to have a lot of respect for Sam Crawford. At one time he was a man who possessed a great deal of integrity. Sadly, I don’t believe that is the case anymore!
Now, is there something else you would like me to disclose? (In the interest of honesty and transparency, even though I did not run for public office?
AFY, I could care less if you have any hope for me!
November 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
But Madam E, I’s do!
AFY!!thesheepdog!!!
November 9th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Elisabeth - I do have a question. Do you still consider yourself a Republican?
November 9th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I knew that question would come up.
Years ago, one of my political science professors drew a line across a chalk board as he was lecturing.
He drew a circle in the middle of the line - and wrote 80% above it. Then he drew lines to the left and the right of the circle and wrote 10% over both of those lines.
He asserted that 80% of voters fall right in the middle of the political spectrum. Some a little to the right, others a little to the left. He told us that the majority of voters see eye to eye on most issues.
Another professor pointed out that most voters self-identify with a party, because their parents identified with that party.
My parents are Republicans. But they would not have been in step with the Whatcom County Republican Party. My dad was not raised in Whatcom County, in fact he was born abroad. My mother, who was raised locally worked with members of the National party.
I guess you could call them mainstream Republicans. Like Nixon, they believed in the value of social programs and environmental protections. Like Roosevelt, they believed that we should preserve and protect our wilderness and environment. Like Lincoln, they believed all citizens should be free and have the opportunty to pursue their hopes and dreams.
My great grandfather told me that being a conservative means understanding that you have a duty to protect and conserve natural resources for all future generations. He spent hours walking with me after school, teaching me about the forests, our beaches and the creatures that live there.
My family believes that Americans (all Americans) should have an equal opportunity to lead a full an productive life. They also believe that we have a moral obligation to protect and care for those who are less fortunate or have been injured, or have lost their jobs through no fault of their own.
My family believes strongly in our public education system. They would like to see health care reform enacted. They are thankful that we have social security and medicare.
Those are very traditional Republican values. But I do not see those values represented here, locally, in the Republican Party.
I did see them demonstrated in other parts of the state, and in Olympia. Where one finds more mainstream Republicans.
Am I a Republican? Not in the way that others define themselves as Republicans in this community. And local Republicans will be the first to tell you that I am not a “Republican.”
In fact, Bruce Ayers publicly denounced me at a Central Committee meeting and told the PCOs that he considered me a Democrat. You see, guys like Bruce Ayers think that only they can define who is or is not a Republican.
In fact, now that I think back on it, I probably have more in common with the moderate Ds!
November 9th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Thanks for the response, Elisabeth, always interesting to see people explain their thought process on their involvement in party politics and their values systems, etc.
November 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
I should mention, however, that there were some Tea Party participants there. The video from the event was done by Spinnwolf and NWWaguy, who are libertarians and members of the Tea Party. I don’t recall them being involved with the Whatcom GOP.
November 9th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Not that anybody asked, but I respect that; a lot actually.
November 9th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Is Joe Leiberman a Democratic?
In my humble opinion, Elisabeth Britt is the only pureblooded Patriot on this blog.
November 9th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
That lefty socialist, Richard M. Nixon signed the National Environmental Policy Act on New Year’s Day, 1970 and appointed William Ruckelshaus as the EPA’s first administrator. Nearly forty years later, I don’t see present day Whatcom GOPs Crawford, Brenner, Kershner or Knutzen ever considering such a pro-environment act to meet the “republican” purity test of today fanaticism. In their sharp turn away from centralist policies many fell or were pushed off the back end of the GOP wagon in the name of party purity.
November 9th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Is it too soon to start the “Draft Dan for County Exec” movement and get rid of that Luke endorsing Kremmen?
November 9th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I heard Dan was leading the Draft Carl movement.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Elisabeth, did you work for Roger Van Dyken? Just curious as he is the only Republican leader on a state level that springs to mind who was in any way outstanding. The only other outstanding R I ever gave credence to was local politician Shirley Van Z, but she never held state office. Perhaps they were not local legislators.
Also why is the present party chair so Michelle Bachman like in her pronouncements to the press on almost any issue?
Further it seems to be the GOP that is parroting and giving comfort to the hallucinations of the tea baggers. Some may be libertarian, but they are GOP Ron Paul libertarian, don’t you think? I think you’re absolutely right that you see none of the noble goals and ideals of true old time conservatism at play here in Whatcom or the nation as a whole for that matter. The conservative tag has been hijacked by the most extreme elements of the culture warrior movement. They would not appear so sneaky if they just called themselves what they are– radicals.
Finally , I wouldn’t worry what Bruce Ayers says, he is so not worthy of note.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I did however vote for a few R’s in this past election, but mostly out of spite for those running on the D ticket, who are fast becoming as radical in their own ways as any on the right. What I would give for more centrist councils. It is hard not to credit a fair amount of the local economic downturn on our council’s attacks on property rights and the usually vibrant building industry,as well as the country’s economy as a whole. The GMA seems to be the cover for a lot of this left wing radicalism. IMHO only.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
“In my humble opinion, Elisabeth Britt is the only pureblooded Patriot on this blog.”
How did you know I was one third Commie and one quarter Teabag?
November 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Then Ciz my friend would that leave two third’s minius a quarter zebra?
AFY!!thesheepdog!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
No,
I think about 33% of Communism is healthy and I agree with about 25% of what the Tea Partiers want.
I think Americanism is missing the mark as a complete system to be a Patriot for.
I guess 42% zebra is no worse than what I’ve called you over the years.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Hey AFY!,
Dave Gallagher published an article that may be of interest to you:
http://www.bellinghamherald.com/602/story/1151561.html
November 10th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
L7, read it this morning me mate.
To be honest I thought that article would be out Monday. Pretty much as we discussed, wouldn’t you say?
Watch out the company you keep, it may give you a bad rep!
AFY!!thesheepdog!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Hey ciz, I’s always thought those zebra’s be cute little boogers!
AFY!!thesheepdog!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
AFY,
Considering the statements made by Ranier Pacific Bank, I’d say things are somewhat worse than we discussed. Ranier is only “significantly undercapitalized;” but Horizon’s inferior rating is “critically undercapitalized.”
If Ranier admits it cannot raise capital in this soft market, why would anyone invest in Horizon? If Ranier admits it’s unlikely they will continue as a going concern, what does that say about Horizon?
I suspect the clock’s ticking for both. Horizon’s shares fell another 20% today. On the bright side, it cannot really go MUCH lower.
You gotta wonder about a community bank that’s willing to wage war with its own community. They might win a battle or two, but those who are hurt will have long (and painful) memories.
Here’s a link to the article about Ranier Pacific:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2010238437_rainier10.html
November 10th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
ciz,
“How did you know I was one third Commie and one quarter Teabag?”
I saw you at the meetings.
November 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
L7, you will get no argument from me (this may be a historic moment folks!)!
I have nothing agin Horizon meself and hope they do survive, but the tea leafs are looking more of the black type than the green kind for sure, don’t you know!
AFY!!thesheepdog!!!