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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING! Kershner now leads McShane for County Council seat</title>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L7, you will get no argument from me (this may be a historic moment folks!)!

I have nothing agin Horizon meself and hope they do survive, but the tea leafs are looking more of the black type than the green kind for sure, don't you know!

AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L7, you will get no argument from me (this may be a historic moment folks!)!</p>
<p>I have nothing agin Horizon meself and hope they do survive, but the tea leafs are looking more of the black type than the green kind for sure, don&#8217;t you know!</p>
<p>AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ciz, 
"How did you know I was one third Commie and one quarter Teabag?"

I saw you at the meetings. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ciz,<br />
&#8220;How did you know I was one third Commie and one quarter Teabag?&#8221;</p>
<p>I saw you at the meetings. <img src='http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lucky7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucky7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFY,

Considering the statements made by Ranier Pacific Bank, I'd say things are somewhat worse than we discussed.  Ranier is only "significantly undercapitalized;" but Horizon's inferior rating is "critically undercapitalized."

If Ranier admits it cannot raise capital in this soft market, why would anyone invest in Horizon?  If Ranier admits it's unlikely they will continue as a going concern, what does that say about Horizon?

I suspect the clock's ticking for both.  Horizon's shares fell another 20% today.  On the bright side, it cannot really go MUCH lower.

You gotta wonder about a community bank that's willing to wage war with its own community.  They might win a battle or two, but those who are hurt will have long (and painful) memories.

Here's a link to the article about Ranier Pacific:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2010238437_rainier10.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFY,</p>
<p>Considering the statements made by Ranier Pacific Bank, I&#8217;d say things are somewhat worse than we discussed.  Ranier is only &#8220;significantly undercapitalized;&#8221; but Horizon&#8217;s inferior rating is &#8220;critically undercapitalized.&#8221;</p>
<p>If Ranier admits it cannot raise capital in this soft market, why would anyone invest in Horizon?  If Ranier admits it&#8217;s unlikely they will continue as a going concern, what does that say about Horizon?</p>
<p>I suspect the clock&#8217;s ticking for both.  Horizon&#8217;s shares fell another 20% today.  On the bright side, it cannot really go MUCH lower.</p>
<p>You gotta wonder about a community bank that&#8217;s willing to wage war with its own community.  They might win a battle or two, but those who are hurt will have long (and painful) memories.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to the article about Ranier Pacific:<br />
<a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2010238437_rainier10.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/seattletimes.nwsource.com');" rel="nofollow">http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2010238437_rainier10.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey ciz, I's always thought those zebra's be cute little boogers!

AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey ciz, I&#8217;s always thought those zebra&#8217;s be cute little boogers!</p>
<p>AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L7, read it this morning me mate.

To be honest I thought that article would be out Monday. Pretty much as we discussed, wouldn't you say?

Watch out the company you keep, it may give you a bad rep!

AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L7, read it this morning me mate.</p>
<p>To be honest I thought that article would be out Monday. Pretty much as we discussed, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
<p>Watch out the company you keep, it may give you a bad rep!</p>
<p>AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucky7</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/election/breaking-kershner-now-leads-mcshane-for-county-council-seat/comment-page-2/#comment-14682</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucky7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey AFY!,

Dave Gallagher published an article that may be of interest to you:

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/602/story/1151561.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey AFY!,</p>
<p>Dave Gallagher published an article that may be of interest to you:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bellinghamherald.com/602/story/1151561.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.bellinghamherald.com/602/story/1151561.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, 
I think about 33% of Communism is healthy and I agree with about 25% of what the Tea Partiers want.
I think Americanism is missing the mark as a complete system to be a Patriot for.
I guess 42% zebra is no worse than what I've called you over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No,<br />
I think about 33% of Communism is healthy and I agree with about 25% of what the Tea Partiers want.<br />
I think Americanism is missing the mark as a complete system to be a Patriot for.<br />
I guess 42% zebra is no worse than what I&#8217;ve called you over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then Ciz my friend would that leave two third's minius a quarter zebra?

AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then Ciz my friend would that leave two third&#8217;s minius a quarter zebra?</p>
<p>AFY!!thesheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"In my humble opinion, Elisabeth Britt is the only pureblooded Patriot on this blog."

How did you know I was one third Commie and one quarter Teabag?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In my humble opinion, Elisabeth Britt is the only pureblooded Patriot on this blog.&#8221;</p>
<p>How did you know I was one third Commie and one quarter Teabag?</p>
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		<title>By: Jurgen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jurgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did however vote for a few R's in this past election, but mostly out of spite for those running on the D ticket, who are fast becoming as radical in their own ways as any on the right.  What I would give for  more centrist councils.  It is hard not to credit a fair amount of the local economic downturn on our council's attacks on property rights and the usually vibrant building industry,as well as the country's economy as a whole.  The GMA seems to be the cover for a lot of this left wing radicalism.  IMHO only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did however vote for a few R&#8217;s in this past election, but mostly out of spite for those running on the D ticket, who are fast becoming as radical in their own ways as any on the right.  What I would give for  more centrist councils.  It is hard not to credit a fair amount of the local economic downturn on our council&#8217;s attacks on property rights and the usually vibrant building industry,as well as the country&#8217;s economy as a whole.  The GMA seems to be the cover for a lot of this left wing radicalism.  IMHO only.</p>
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		<title>By: Jurgen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jurgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elisabeth, did you work for Roger Van Dyken?  Just curious as he is the only Republican leader on a state level that springs to mind who was in any way outstanding.  The only other outstanding R I ever gave credence to was local politician  Shirley Van Z, but she never held state office. Perhaps they were not local legislators. 

Also why is the present party chair so Michelle Bachman like in her pronouncements to the press on almost any issue?  
Further it seems to be  the GOP that is parroting and giving comfort to the hallucinations of the tea baggers.  Some may be libertarian, but they are GOP Ron Paul libertarian, don't you think?   I think you're absolutely right that you see none of the noble goals and ideals of true old time conservatism at play here in Whatcom or the nation as a whole for that matter.  The conservative tag has been hijacked by the most extreme elements of the culture warrior movement.  They would not appear so sneaky if they just called themselves what they are-- radicals.

Finally , I wouldn't worry what Bruce Ayers says, he is so not worthy of note.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elisabeth, did you work for Roger Van Dyken?  Just curious as he is the only Republican leader on a state level that springs to mind who was in any way outstanding.  The only other outstanding R I ever gave credence to was local politician  Shirley Van Z, but she never held state office. Perhaps they were not local legislators. </p>
<p>Also why is the present party chair so Michelle Bachman like in her pronouncements to the press on almost any issue?<br />
Further it seems to be  the GOP that is parroting and giving comfort to the hallucinations of the tea baggers.  Some may be libertarian, but they are GOP Ron Paul libertarian, don&#8217;t you think?   I think you&#8217;re absolutely right that you see none of the noble goals and ideals of true old time conservatism at play here in Whatcom or the nation as a whole for that matter.  The conservative tag has been hijacked by the most extreme elements of the culture warrior movement.  They would not appear so sneaky if they just called themselves what they are&#8211; radicals.</p>
<p>Finally , I wouldn&#8217;t worry what Bruce Ayers says, he is so not worthy of note.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzie Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzie Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Dan was leading the Draft Carl movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Dan was leading the Draft Carl movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Roaring Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roaring Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it too soon to start the “Draft Dan for County Exec” movement and get rid of that Luke endorsing Kremmen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too soon to start the “Draft Dan for County Exec” movement and get rid of that Luke endorsing Kremmen?</p>
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		<title>By: Roaring Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roaring Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That lefty socialist, Richard M. Nixon signed the National Environmental Policy Act on New Year’s Day, 1970 and appointed William Ruckelshaus as the EPA’s first administrator.  Nearly forty years later, I don’t see present day Whatcom GOPs Crawford, Brenner, Kershner or Knutzen ever considering such a pro-environment act to meet the “republican” purity test of today fanaticism.   In their sharp turn away from centralist policies many fell or were pushed off the back end of the GOP wagon in the name of party purity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That lefty socialist, Richard M. Nixon signed the National Environmental Policy Act on New Year’s Day, 1970 and appointed William Ruckelshaus as the EPA’s first administrator.  Nearly forty years later, I don’t see present day Whatcom GOPs Crawford, Brenner, Kershner or Knutzen ever considering such a pro-environment act to meet the “republican” purity test of today fanaticism.   In their sharp turn away from centralist policies many fell or were pushed off the back end of the GOP wagon in the name of party purity.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Joe Leiberman a Democratic?
In my humble opinion, Elisabeth Britt is the only pureblooded Patriot on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Joe Leiberman a Democratic?<br />
In my humble opinion, Elisabeth Britt is the only pureblooded Patriot on this blog.</p>
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