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	<title>Comments on: Politifact: Wall Street reform bill does not provide bailouts. NYT: The issue is  more nuanced</title>
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		<title>By: Davesix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davesix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies!
I certainly did.
Actually, I agree with much of what you write, and we disagree mostly about details, while we agree about corrupt process in Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies!<br />
I certainly did.<br />
Actually, I agree with much of what you write, and we disagree mostly about details, while we agree about corrupt process in Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: g.h.kirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>g.h.kirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, may I remind you also agreed on Cap &#38; Trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, may I remind you also agreed on Cap &amp; Trade.</p>
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		<title>By: Davesix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davesix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For once, I agree with Mr. Kirsch.
The prospect of prison would clear a mind or two.

About the bill: If it was passed by this Congress, it's a bad bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For once, I agree with Mr. Kirsch.<br />
The prospect of prison would clear a mind or two.</p>
<p>About the bill: If it was passed by this Congress, it&#8217;s a bad bill.</p>
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		<title>By: g.h.kirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>g.h.kirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The culture on Wall Street (and in Washington for that matter) could easily be changed with a few high profile prison terms.  These guys are the dons of white collar crime.  Yes, crime.  Unfortunately, there is no sheriff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The culture on Wall Street (and in Washington for that matter) could easily be changed with a few high profile prison terms.  These guys are the dons of white collar crime.  Yes, crime.  Unfortunately, there is no sheriff.</p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A foundation for failure!

AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A foundation for failure!</p>
<p>AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was never supposed to be a one fix solution.  It is a foundation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was never supposed to be a one fix solution.  It is a foundation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dodd-Frank bill does nothing to deal with Wall Street's central problem: systemic non-disclosure.

Dodd-Frank is a full-employment act for regulators that addresses everything but the root causes of the financial collapse. It serves up a dog's breakfast covering proprietary trading, consumer financial protection, derivatives trading, executive pay, credit card fees, whistle-blowers, minority inclusion and Congolese minerals. Dodd-Frank also mandates 68 new studies of carbon markets, Chinese drywalls, and person-to-person lending, and many other irrelevancies. 

None of this deals with the central problem--Wall Street's ability to hide behind claims of proprietary information to facilitate the production and sale of trillions of dollars in securities whose true values are almost impossible for outsiders to determine. 

Dodd-Frank is not just a prescription for regulatory sclerosis. It is a bonanza for Wall Street lobbyists and lawyers, who will help determine what this law's 283,985 words actually mean. 

http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/15/dodd-frank-failure-regulation-opinions-contributors-james-henry-laurence-kotlikoff-wall-street.html

AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dodd-Frank bill does nothing to deal with Wall Street&#8217;s central problem: systemic non-disclosure.</p>
<p>Dodd-Frank is a full-employment act for regulators that addresses everything but the root causes of the financial collapse. It serves up a dog&#8217;s breakfast covering proprietary trading, consumer financial protection, derivatives trading, executive pay, credit card fees, whistle-blowers, minority inclusion and Congolese minerals. Dodd-Frank also mandates 68 new studies of carbon markets, Chinese drywalls, and person-to-person lending, and many other irrelevancies. </p>
<p>None of this deals with the central problem&#8211;Wall Street&#8217;s ability to hide behind claims of proprietary information to facilitate the production and sale of trillions of dollars in securities whose true values are almost impossible for outsiders to determine. </p>
<p>Dodd-Frank is not just a prescription for regulatory sclerosis. It is a bonanza for Wall Street lobbyists and lawyers, who will help determine what this law&#8217;s 283,985 words actually mean. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/15/dodd-frank-failure-regulation-opinions-contributors-james-henry-laurence-kotlikoff-wall-street.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.forbes.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/15/dodd-frank-failure-regulation-opinions-contributors-james-henry-laurence-kotlikoff-wall-street.html</a></p>
<p>AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFY, even those of your own breed are disappointed in the constant chants of no to everything...

And if you listen to Judd Greg, well lo siento, you are what you read....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/gop-senator-on-financial_n_538717.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFY, even those of your own breed are disappointed in the constant chants of no to everything&#8230;</p>
<p>And if you listen to Judd Greg, well lo siento, you are what you read&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/gop-senator-on-financial_n_538717.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.huffingtonpost.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/gop-senator-on-financial_n_538717.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/election/politifact-wall-street-reform-bill-does-not-provide-bailouts-nyt-the-issue-is-more-nuanced/comment-page-1/#comment-42564</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hammer time, Says who?  Fox News?  You're not paying attention to the overwhelming press on this.  

You have not responded to any of the points or issues in the linked articles.  

You have just spewed "..deficiencies..." from the cheap seats, but not enumerated any of your hidden points.  Consequently, since I'm not Carnac, I'll just note that you vote no but the "deficiencies" are in you telling us why...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hammer time, Says who?  Fox News?  You&#8217;re not paying attention to the overwhelming press on this.  </p>
<p>You have not responded to any of the points or issues in the linked articles.  </p>
<p>You have just spewed &#8220;..deficiencies&#8230;&#8221; from the cheap seats, but not enumerated any of your hidden points.  Consequently, since I&#8217;m not Carnac, I&#8217;ll just note that you vote no but the &#8220;deficiencies&#8221; are in you telling us why&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bellinghammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellinghammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun,

It takes a 2300+ page bill to go "back to the basics"? huh?

If this bill was basic and focused on addressing some of the causes of the recent financial meltdown maybe some of it's definicies could be overlooked. As it is, this is bill is way over the top and doesn't even address some of the core problems from the crisis.

Another good example of the Dems serving out Rahm's' mantra of:

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You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,</p>
<p>It takes a 2300+ page bill to go &#8220;back to the basics&#8221;? huh?</p>
<p>If this bill was basic and focused on addressing some of the causes of the recent financial meltdown maybe some of it&#8217;s definicies could be overlooked. As it is, this is bill is way over the top and doesn&#8217;t even address some of the core problems from the crisis.</p>
<p>Another good example of the Dems serving out Rahm&#8217;s&#8217; mantra of:</p>
<blockquote><p>
You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The financial regulatory bill is a “disaster,” and its proposed consumer protection agency would create a Fannie and Freddie “on steroids,” Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. 

The bill is a disaster because it doesn’t address the fundamental underlining causes of the economic issue, which were real estate and underwriting,” 

You’ll basically have a consumer protection agency which decides to go out and in the morning and say, ‘well everybody who’s XYZ should have a loan, even though the local community bank says XYZ shouldn’t have a loan, because if we give them a loan, we know they’re not going to pay back,’” he said. “It’s going to become an agency that defines lending on social justice purposes instead of safety and soundness purposes.”

“You’ve got this Alice in Wonderland tea party atmosphere around derivatives,” 

 So they will become even less controllable in the sense of having oversight.”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37314297

AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The financial regulatory bill is a “disaster,” and its proposed consumer protection agency would create a Fannie and Freddie “on steroids,” Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H. </p>
<p>The bill is a disaster because it doesn’t address the fundamental underlining causes of the economic issue, which were real estate and underwriting,” </p>
<p>You’ll basically have a consumer protection agency which decides to go out and in the morning and say, ‘well everybody who’s XYZ should have a loan, even though the local community bank says XYZ shouldn’t have a loan, because if we give them a loan, we know they’re not going to pay back,’” he said. “It’s going to become an agency that defines lending on social justice purposes instead of safety and soundness purposes.”</p>
<p>“You’ve got this Alice in Wonderland tea party atmosphere around derivatives,” </p>
<p> So they will become even less controllable in the sense of having oversight.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/37314297" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.cnbc.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnbc.com/id/37314297</a></p>
<p>AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now you'll just have to spin and moan and grump and of course scream a lot of "foul" but like all the other programs Obama has pushed through in one of the most sweeping change waves of             legislation ...almost ever...the successes will be decried by the right as flukes and the working out of details and fine tuning will be obstructed at every turn.  

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/business/business/2010/jul/15/regugat15-ar-297129/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now you&#8217;ll just have to spin and moan and grump and of course scream a lot of &#8220;foul&#8221; but like all the other programs Obama has pushed through in one of the most sweeping change waves of             legislation &#8230;almost ever&#8230;the successes will be decried by the right as flukes and the working out of details and fine tuning will be obstructed at every turn.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www2.timesdispatch.com/business/business/2010/jul/15/regugat15-ar-297129/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www2.timesdispatch.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www2.timesdispatch.com/business/business/2010/jul/15/regugat15-ar-297129/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought going back to basics was the Republican mantra, but you guys make my head spin with all your spin..

http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jun2010/sb20100629_183643.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought going back to basics was the Republican mantra, but you guys make my head spin with all your spin..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jun2010/sb20100629_183643.htm" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.businessweek.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jun2010/sb20100629_183643.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could do nothing, except maybe benefit small banks who are the prime lenders to small business....

http://www.mybanktracker.com/bank-news/2010/07/02/financial-reform-bill-could-benefit-small-banks/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could do nothing, except maybe benefit small banks who are the prime lenders to small business&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mybanktracker.com/bank-news/2010/07/02/financial-reform-bill-could-benefit-small-banks/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.mybanktracker.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.mybanktracker.com/bank-news/2010/07/02/financial-reform-bill-could-benefit-small-banks/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AmericanByChoice</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmericanByChoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if any of these 60 stalwarts who voted for this, have actually read the bill? As not-reading-bills seems to be Dimmocrap SOP, I doubt it.
"We have to pass this bill (said about the Health Care so-called Reform Bill) to find out what's in it" -Nancy Pelosi. 
Deja Vu all over again.
REMEMBER ON NOVEMBER 2ND!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if any of these 60 stalwarts who voted for this, have actually read the bill? As not-reading-bills seems to be Dimmocrap SOP, I doubt it.<br />
&#8220;We have to pass this bill (said about the Health Care so-called Reform Bill) to find out what&#8217;s in it&#8221; -Nancy Pelosi.<br />
Deja Vu all over again.<br />
REMEMBER ON NOVEMBER 2ND!</p>
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