From Stark
An official at Ambre Energy has told Oregon legislators that the company no longer expects to be able to ship coal to the Far East from its planned Morrow Pacific project on the Columbia River by 2013.
The project’s proponent, Ambre Energy, has pushed back the estimated startup date to mid-2014, citing the complexities of the permit process.
Ambre still hopes that its coal export terminal will be the first one in the Northwest to get up and running.
Closer to home, SSA Marine spokesmen have said they hope to have the Gateway Pacific Terminal operating at Cherry Point by 2016, but the environmental study process for that complex facility has yet to begin in earnest.
Breathe, AFY, breathe. The reality is we reach the same conclusions, wherever our Truth derives if, in fact, we care about the Truth.
And the truth has no agenda, don’t ya know!
AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!
Absolutely, the truth has no agenda. But people who equate the protection of earth’s life sustaining elements with centralized planning do have an agenda. Their agenda is to continue to externalize their costs of doing business onto the public at large.
AFY, do you really not understand that you cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet with finite resources and a finite ability to cleanse industrial pollutants?
Or are you simply blinded by the almighty dollar?
The end of growth argument reminds me so much of if you go beyond a certain point you will fall off the edge of the world argument that was prevalent at one time by those times naysayers!
You know what makes us kinda different than most animals, it’s about six inches, the distance between our ears, and in that short distance man (&woman) thru innovation and technology has been changing the known & unknown world thru out time and for the better. IMHO we have only just begone to innovate and find new technologies, don’t ya know!
The scare stories of the end of resources today are not new and are about as valid as similar arguments in the past:
“…In 1977 President Jimmy Carter went on television and declared: “World oil production can probably keep going up for another six or eight years. But sometime in the 1980s, it can’t go up anymore. Demand will overtake production.”….The end of oil and gas had been predicted repeatedly throughout the 20th century. In 1922 President Warren Harding created the US Coal Commission, which undertook an 11-month survey that warned, “Already the output of [natural] gas has begun to wane. Production of oil cannot long maintain its present rate.” In 1956, M. King Hubbert, a Shell geophysicist, forecast that gas production in the US would peak at about 14 trillion cubic feet per year sometime around 1970.
All these predictions failed to come true. Oil and gas production have continued to rise during the past 50 years. Gas reserves took an enormous leap upward after 2007, as engineers learned how to exploit abundant shale gas. In 2011 the International Energy Agency estimated that global gas resources would last 250 years….. Ever since Thomas Robert Malthus, doomsayers have tended to underestimate the power of innovation. In reality, driven by price increases, people simply developed new technologies, such as the horizontal drilling technique that has helped us extract more oil from shale…..
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/08/ff_apocalypsenot/
BTW WY yous gonna love the picture at the beginning of this article!
FYI what’s bad about money, money is freedom! Freedom ain’t free, don’t ya know!
WY you wouldn’t be one of those Fauna and Flora bill of rights advocates would you?
Because I agree’s they do have rights, the right of me to eat them, just the tasty one’s mind ya!
AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!
Blessed are those who worship money above all else, for they will inherit an earth devoid of life.
AFY, our country won’t be the innovators. When the rare opportunity arises today to manufacture in this country, employers can’t find enough people to hire with the basic skills neccessary. Case in point:
http://www.registerguard.com/web/newslocalnews/28475538-41/eitzen-gunderson-barges-employees-fractions.html.csp
That’s your brave new world where we don’t tax anyone or pay for education for elites. Yea. You won. We can’t fill contracts now without remedial education.
I’m sorry, but I have to vent here for a moment. After having been called — by YOU –an educated elitist, how DARE you claim our country will come out strong “thru innovation and technology” you unbelievable hypocrite and lie monger?
And, AFY, after today I don’t intend to ever have this discussion as confrontationally again. But something about this thread was unique, you must admit, when you called me a socialist, communist, and capitalist within minutes.
The one true thing you said is that it is widely known you are Joe, trying to get a contract for your company, and GPT would mean a lock for you. The rest of your posts have become so transparent and ludicrous I actually wondered if you weren’t a paid plant funded by the Left. That said,
You go!
Then tell us Terry,
Why do you educated elitist, refuse to acknowledge the long running theft of state school trust lands, funding education facilities in Washington since 1853, with a view of the income stream from the 6 R’s, that’s remedial readin, remedial ritin, and remedial rithmetic crowd, Olympia’s Finest Hyprocrits shown in a DNR meeting today.
DNR=Couldnt find work, so we got a State Job instead!
http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/843627.opn.pdf
Boudou?
Railroad Monopolies? You must be kidding, have you ever lived in the State of Washington?
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0193_0197_ZS.html
When I’s was a little boy a long long time ago in a faraway place one of me favorite things was to poke a stick into an anthill and watch them come out and mindlessly try to find their way. However in me old age I’s have found that the so called educated elite with their very high opinion of themselves is a bunch more fun to poke, don’t ya know!
AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!
Heck AFY, been to the American River?
KNOW BEFORE YOU GO?
http://www.reserveamerica.com/campgroundDetails.do?subTabIndex=0&&contractCode=nrso&parkCode=plva
Be aware there are Thatcher ants in this campground. It is a beautiful area, but there are giant anthills dotting the campground. Tent campers especially need to be aware since bites can be very harmful to humans and pets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyE7bchr33w
Reminds me of what’s happens in Whatcom everytime a new industry is looking to move here, don’t ya know!
AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!