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		<title>By: Sam Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/general/thousands-rally-in-olympia-against-taxes/comment-page-3/#comment-26521</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB - you know, I'm quite sure, that a certain word you used in a post here is not allowed. Thus, your post has been removed. Please refrain from such posts in the future.</description>
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		<title>By: onceproudamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>onceproudamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realy don't think I can agree with that Shaun, after all Bellingham is an 'All American City'.  If you talked to current students and got honest replies I bet most of the stuff I saw and experienced still goes on; it's built into the structure

Anytime you have an institution that, upon seeing it has failed to achieve it's purpose-educating young people- but only sees asking for more money as the solution, you have a broken structure.

Have you read any of he writings of, John Taylor Gatto?

This one is short, but provides a nice summary:

http://www.educationrevolution.org/iquit.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realy don&#8217;t think I can agree with that Shaun, after all Bellingham is an &#8216;All American City&#8217;.  If you talked to current students and got honest replies I bet most of the stuff I saw and experienced still goes on; it&#8217;s built into the structure</p>
<p>Anytime you have an institution that, upon seeing it has failed to achieve it&#8217;s purpose-educating young people- but only sees asking for more money as the solution, you have a broken structure.</p>
<p>Have you read any of he writings of, John Taylor Gatto?</p>
<p>This one is short, but provides a nice summary:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.educationrevolution.org/iquit.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.educationrevolution.org');" rel="nofollow">http://www.educationrevolution.org/iquit.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do realize though that your experience is not the norm, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize though that your experience is not the norm, right?</p>
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		<title>By: onceproudamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>onceproudamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shaun!  

It's all water under the bridge as they say, and I am much stronger for getting through it all and it is probably  why I have been so successful in the 'real' world.

I had my 30th HS reunion last year and saw one of the guys who terrorized me back then and the first thing he said is one of the reasons he showed up was to apologize to me, he was sorry and ashamed.  He was one of the one's I couldn't take on.  He hit me so hard once I didn't even THINK of hitting him back.  I told him all was forgiven long ago, but I appreciated his coming to apologize.

Maybe my experience is why I am such a stickler for the rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Shaun!  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all water under the bridge as they say, and I am much stronger for getting through it all and it is probably  why I have been so successful in the &#8216;real&#8217; world.</p>
<p>I had my 30th HS reunion last year and saw one of the guys who terrorized me back then and the first thing he said is one of the reasons he showed up was to apologize to me, he was sorry and ashamed.  He was one of the one&#8217;s I couldn&#8217;t take on.  He hit me so hard once I didn&#8217;t even THINK of hitting him back.  I told him all was forgiven long ago, but I appreciated his coming to apologize.</p>
<p>Maybe my experience is why I am such a stickler for the rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, that AFY's a real Wise Guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, that AFY&#8217;s a real Wise Guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/general/thousands-rally-in-olympia-against-taxes/comment-page-3/#comment-23709</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OP, I'm sorry you had it so hard, truly... your tale is a reminder that it is not a perfect system and sometimes it breaks down.  No wonder you feel so strongly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OP, I&#8217;m sorry you had it so hard, truly&#8230; your tale is a reminder that it is not a perfect system and sometimes it breaks down.  No wonder you feel so strongly.</p>
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		<title>By: onceproudamerican</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/general/thousands-rally-in-olympia-against-taxes/comment-page-3/#comment-23691</link>
		<dc:creator>onceproudamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, how could I possibly comment on your personal school experiences? If you read closely, I pointed out how schools dehumanize students for convenience. Student numbers, sorting by size and last names, group showers, making everyone do the same things regardless if it happens to be whats best for the individual student, hair cut rules, dress codes, you get the idea;  I consider all those things dehumanizing. Many of the same things were done to the Jews in the Holocaust. 

The fact that the inmates generally run the institution is a big part of it, as I was bullied CONSTANTLY until I after reached puberty. Teachers cannot watch everyone all the time.  On the bright side, it made me so tough that classmates who had 50lbs on me avoided picking on me the rest of my school career because they knew I would cause them pain or injury if attacked, and warned others of the high price for messing with me as well;-)

BTW bikerbob, one of the FIRST things you learn when you are institutionalized is not to RAT on the other inmates as it is dangerous to your health...  The 'Hoods' as they were called then, had their own kind of 'justice' and it was always violent.  Back then kids were never tried as adults no matter what offense they committed.

BTW, anyone catch today's headline:Lower Merion School District sued for cyber spying on students

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/84715297.html?cmpid=15585797

More dehumanizing behavior by public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, how could I possibly comment on your personal school experiences? If you read closely, I pointed out how schools dehumanize students for convenience. Student numbers, sorting by size and last names, group showers, making everyone do the same things regardless if it happens to be whats best for the individual student, hair cut rules, dress codes, you get the idea;  I consider all those things dehumanizing. Many of the same things were done to the Jews in the Holocaust. </p>
<p>The fact that the inmates generally run the institution is a big part of it, as I was bullied CONSTANTLY until I after reached puberty. Teachers cannot watch everyone all the time.  On the bright side, it made me so tough that classmates who had 50lbs on me avoided picking on me the rest of my school career because they knew I would cause them pain or injury if attacked, and warned others of the high price for messing with me as well;-)</p>
<p>BTW bikerbob, one of the FIRST things you learn when you are institutionalized is not to RAT on the other inmates as it is dangerous to your health&#8230;  The &#8216;Hoods&#8217; as they were called then, had their own kind of &#8216;justice&#8217; and it was always violent.  Back then kids were never tried as adults no matter what offense they committed.</p>
<p>BTW, anyone catch today&#8217;s headline:Lower Merion School District sued for cyber spying on students</p>
<p><a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/84715297.html?cmpid=15585797" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.philly.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/84715297.html?cmpid=15585797</a></p>
<p>More dehumanizing behavior by public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know AFY, you seem like a specially educated kind of guy to me.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know AFY, you seem like a specially educated kind of guy to me.  <img src='http://blogs.bellinghamherald.com/politics/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: AFY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I's has the evidence;

I's when and graduated from public schools, as many of me new found friends will testfy herein what a disaster I's has turned out to be!

Case close!

AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;s has the evidence;</p>
<p>I&#8217;s when and graduated from public schools, as many of me new found friends will testfy herein what a disaster I&#8217;s has turned out to be!</p>
<p>Case close!</p>
<p>AFY!!theheelotsheepdog!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OnceProud - so just to clarify, you think I've been dehumanized because I attended public school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OnceProud - so just to clarify, you think I&#8217;ve been dehumanized because I attended public school?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you suggest these other measures to keep children safe:

Keep your children out of church so they won't be molested

Avoid institutions of higher learning or they'll be gunned down.

Don't leave children alone with their parents if the parent had a relationship that ended badly.

No carnival rides for anyone under the age of 21.

Remove the child from the home of any adult who consumes alcoholic beverages.

We already have enough silliness to go around without adding new levels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you suggest these other measures to keep children safe:</p>
<p>Keep your children out of church so they won&#8217;t be molested</p>
<p>Avoid institutions of higher learning or they&#8217;ll be gunned down.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t leave children alone with their parents if the parent had a relationship that ended badly.</p>
<p>No carnival rides for anyone under the age of 21.</p>
<p>Remove the child from the home of any adult who consumes alcoholic beverages.</p>
<p>We already have enough silliness to go around without adding new levels</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad stuff happens everywhere...Home, Private School anywhere.  That doesn't mean we shutter our kids and hide in fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad stuff happens everywhere&#8230;Home, Private School anywhere.  That doesn&#8217;t mean we shutter our kids and hide in fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Columbia Elementary, where your Police Chief, and Mayor are left behind, send more money?

"The last that was seen of Mikey was me seeing his back walking into that yard," Rood said. "And me thinking "Oh crap! I should call him.'"

Police divulged few other key details of their investigation, but Carroll and Mayor Mark Asmundson called a news conference to assure their town that the crime was an isolated event, and that there is no danger that a random killer is stalking the streets.

"This community is a safe community," Carroll said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Columbia Elementary, where your Police Chief, and Mayor are left behind, send more money?</p>
<p>&#8220;The last that was seen of Mikey was me seeing his back walking into that yard,&#8221; Rood said. &#8220;And me thinking &#8220;Oh crap! I should call him.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Police divulged few other key details of their investigation, but Carroll and Mayor Mark Asmundson called a news conference to assure their town that the crime was an isolated event, and that there is no danger that a random killer is stalking the streets.</p>
<p>&#8220;This community is a safe community,&#8221; Carroll said.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just join the WEA, and ask for more money, it's always the place where the pedophiles practice.

And you don't need another Study!

VOTE WEA, Just look where Letourneau's daddy worked, a State Legislature!

Letourneau first met Vili Fualaau when he was a student in her second grade class at Shorewood Elementary School in Burien, Washington.[ She became his teacher again when he was in the sixth grade, after she had become a teacher of a combined fifth and sixth grade class that he happened to be in. She began a relationship when Vili was 12 years old.She became pregnant by him in the same grade, when Vili was 13 and she was 35. Her husband became aware of the situation when he read their letters to each other in February 1997 and revealed it to family members,. His brother then reported the relationship to local child protection services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just join the WEA, and ask for more money, it&#8217;s always the place where the pedophiles practice.</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t need another Study!</p>
<p>VOTE WEA, Just look where Letourneau&#8217;s daddy worked, a State Legislature!</p>
<p>Letourneau first met Vili Fualaau when he was a student in her second grade class at Shorewood Elementary School in Burien, Washington.[ She became his teacher again when he was in the sixth grade, after she had become a teacher of a combined fifth and sixth grade class that he happened to be in. She began a relationship when Vili was 12 years old.She became pregnant by him in the same grade, when Vili was 13 and she was 35. Her husband became aware of the situation when he read their letters to each other in February 1997 and revealed it to family members,. His brother then reported the relationship to local child protection services.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God, where exactly some people went to school at "IS" questionable?

Is that kind of like the pedophiles, with that Teachers Union Membership?

It, never happens, is just part of that sex ed class!

http://www.krem.com/home/Gym-teacher-arrested-for-sex-with-teenager-83476922.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God, where exactly some people went to school at &#8220;IS&#8221; questionable?</p>
<p>Is that kind of like the pedophiles, with that Teachers Union Membership?</p>
<p>It, never happens, is just part of that sex ed class!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.krem.com/home/Gym-teacher-arrested-for-sex-with-teenager-83476922.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.krem.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.krem.com/home/Gym-teacher-arrested-for-sex-with-teenager-83476922.html</a></p>
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